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Obama to ask for debt limit hike: Treasury official| Reuters

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(Reuters) - The White House plans to ask Congress by the end of the week for an increase in the government's debt ceiling to allow the United States to pay its bills on time, according to a senior Treasury Department official on Tuesday. 

The approval is expected to go through without a challenge, given that Congress is in recess until later in January and the request is in line with an agreement to keep the U.S. government funded into 2013.

 

The debt is projected to fall within $100 billion of the current cap by December 30, when the United States has $82 billion in interest on its debt and payments such as Social Security coming due. President Barack Obama is expected to ask for authority to increase the borrowing limit by $1.2 trillion, part of the spending authority that was negotiated between Congress and the White House this summer.

 

Under the agreement struck in August during the showdown over the government's debt limit, the cap is automatically raised unless Congress votes to block the debt-ceiling extension. Lawmakers have 15 days within receiving the request to vote, which is largely symbolic because the president can veto it and Congress would be unlikely to muster the two-thirds majority to override it. Moreover, the U.S. House of Representatives also is in recess until January 17.

 

The deal called for raising the debt ceiling by $2.1 trillion to serve the nation's borrowing needs into 2013 and also included mandatory cuts to the federal budget deficit. Since then, the extension has been increased twice by a total of $900 billion.

The debt limit currently stands at $15.194 trillion and would increase to $16.394 trillion with the request.

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The debt limit currently stands at $15.194 trillion and would increase to $16.394 trillion with the request.

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:53 PM EST
TiG.

It boggles the mind how irresponsible the Legislative and Executive branches have become over the past few decades. The whole federal system is out of control. How do we stop this insanity?

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:22 PM EST
Sebbydad

While where we are now is the result of many things over a long period of time we were on a path of solvency in 2000, but after two wars, massive deregulation of financial institutions, corporate giveaways like medicare part D and irresponsible tax cutting have gotten us to where we are now and all of that traces back to a single administration that specifically and intentionally dismantled a hard fought bi-partisan agreement for fiscal responsibility.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:55 PM EST
vol fan in chatt, tn

WHAT???

We haven't have much fiscal sanity in years. But the last 3 years make insanity look good! Nearly 5 trillion in debt. 5 TRILLION!! There's a few who want to bring some fiscal sanity back but they are demonized as extremists because they want things to be paid for as they already set those rules for themselves (PAYGO), but in the past rarely abided by it.

Consider this - the last bill (trillion dollars) the Senate passed and sent to the House was rife with pork spending -- billions of dollars! At least the House put provisions in place in January to ban all earmarks. I put this squarely in the lap of the President and the Senate, who have failed to do anything substantial but play political games and spend money we don't have, which is why we are having to up the debt limit and will ultimately mean another increase in the debt ceiling shortly(oh wait...I forgot, Obama and the Dems think they took care of that by passing the bill last summer to add enough money so they don't have to have that fight again until after the elections - if it holds out that long).

  • 9 votes
#1.3 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:28 PM EST
my-pockets-r-mt

The approval is expected to go through without a challenge, given that Congress is in recess until later in January and the request is in line with an agreement to keep the U.S. government funded into 2013.

This buying votes is getting awful expensive for tax payers.

when the United States has $82 billion in interest on its debt and payments such as Social Security coming due.

Gee maybe we need to cut ss contributions some more. sarc

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:43 PM EST
Jim Davis, Veterans-For-Change

What we need to do is come election time in Nov 2012..... CLEAN HOUSE again!

And each election do it over and over for as long as it takes to drive a point home that they work for US we do NOT work for them!

They need to listen and vote the will of their constituents not deep pocket lobbyists! And stop thinking about their personal bottom line and worry about the country's bottom line!

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:38 PM EST
TiG.

Jim

What we need to do is come election time in Nov 2012..... CLEAN HOUSE again!

If only the electorate collectively possessed critical thinking skills. Unfortunately it seems the electorate is largely insufficiently informed and has little interest to spend the time and energy to rectify the situation.

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:29 PM EST
George-369262

Speaker Boehner has the power to put a stop to this insane spending, but neither the desire, nor the stones.

Reportedly, the GOP may take over the Senate in 2012, but the GOP Senate leadership is as timid as that in the House.

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:35 AM EST
Jim Davis, Veterans-For-Change

TiG: Do you not fully understand the power of a vote? Electorate or not, they do not vote the individual into office WE THE PEOPLE DO!

If you don't use your vote wisely, or choose to re-elect one of the brainless clowns in office already then that becomes your problem which by your vote have passed on to countless millions of others who want REAL change and not OBAMA change...

How often do you monitor your reps votes in DC?

I not only monitor all nw bills, but their attendance and voting records... so I guess I fall into that 1% who actually give a damn!

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:16 AM EST
TiG.

Jim

Do you not fully understand the power of a vote? Electorate or not, they do not vote the individual into office WE THE PEOPLE DO!

Are you conflating the term 'electorate' with 'electoral college' or possibly 'elected official'? When I refer to the electorate I am talking about 'we the people' - those of us who vote. See Merriam-Webster.

    #1.9 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:47 AM EST
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    vol fan in chatt, tn

    Well, there's a shocker...nobody saw that coming, huh?

    included mandatory cuts to the federal budget deficit. Since then, the extension has been increased twice by a total of $900 billion.

    Spend, spend, and spend some more.

    Interesting he waits until parties are in recess to ask for the increase..

    • 11 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:20 PM EST
    paxildog

    Too big to fail has gone too far. Time to real in the irresponsible folks on the hill and force them to be unpaid and cut all non life threatening programs and get spending back into the black, not this constant red.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:36 PM EST
    WBOB in Indiana

    Whatmeworry?....fire up the printing press....no problem...nothing to see here! What's another trillion or two?

    • 2 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:15 PM EST
    SuperSaiyan

    Apparently, the notion that this makes fiscial sense and the fact that even Reagan raised them numerous times seems to escape some people...

    • 1 vote
    Reply#5 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:16 PM EST
    paxildog

    And you are a great supporter of presidents like Reagan? Hmmm.... I wouldn't have thought that. I suppose that when Bush raised it, you supported that? I didn't, at all.

    • 4 votes
    #5.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:25 PM EST
    SuperSaiyan

    And you are a great supporter of presidents like Reagan? Hmmm.... I wouldn't have thought that.

    As opposed to the far right conveniently forgetting what Reagan actually did(if he was alive today and did a lot of the things that he did, then he would be denounced as a "RINO")...

    • 1 vote
    #5.2 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:28 PM EST
    paxildog

    Then are you a supporter of Reagan and Bush? Raising the limits. You support Republicans, you just aren't far right.

    Thanks for the update if that's true.

    • 3 votes
    #5.3 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:33 PM EST
    SuperSaiyan

    Well, I guess the fact that the GOP has gone so far to the right that even people like Reagan, Eishenhower, Goldwater, amonng others would not be considered "pure" escapes you, paxildog...

    • 2 votes
    #5.4 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:13 PM EST
    paxildog

    Actually, it escaped you. Thanks for the confirmation though. Take care.

    • 4 votes
    #5.5 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:27 PM EST
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    Marno

    And let's not forget that the raising the Federal debt ceiling is not the "blank check" that many like to say it is. It's to pay for spending on programs that Congress has already approved.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#6 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:24 PM EST
    paxildog

    Time to cancel all programs that are not life threatening then.

    • 2 votes
    #6.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:26 PM EST
    Marno

    Yes, it is. Let's start with the Bush tax cuts. ALL of them. Let's do away with subsidies for all commercial goods - including oil and gas. (We cannot on the one hand process faith in the free markets when we're in effect subsidizing them.) Let's get behind the Wyden-Ryan proposal to restructure Medicare. I've got a long, long list...

    • 2 votes
    #6.2 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:37 PM EST
    paxildog

    Yup. Agreed. Some of those cuts or complete ending of budget for also need to include Obamacare, subsidizing foreign governments, paying for these ludicrous wars like Iraq and Libya. Many more cuts in welfare, etc...

    • 2 votes
    #6.3 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:55 PM EST
    Sebbydad

    by all means, lets cancel the tax cuts for the 1%, corporate welfare, farm subsidies for corporate farms, coal and oil subsidies, freeze defense spending for the next decade and require a 5% reduction in that spending per year for that same period. Drop the costly criminalization of marijuana and hemp, regulate it and ban imports for the next 5 years. If you are an adult that is here illegally and can prove it as of 1/1/12, have no criminal record and are either working or going to school you may apply for a green card or citizenship in exchange for a $10,000 fine, which you can pay via payroll deduction or collection of income tax returns, you will be ineligible for for any federal benefits until the fine is paid. If you are under the age of 22 you may go to college for a Bachelor's degree or higher or join the military for 4 years in lieu of the fine. repeal the DOMA and save the legal costs. Increase the medicare tax gradually and on a progressive scale to a top rate of 4% , combine the medicare and medicaid programs and provide basic health insurance to every legal citizen and resident and save companies the cost of providing insurance. Pass legislation requiring financial institutions to maintain homes they have foreclosed on and keep them in livable condition or face fines to cover the cost for the individual state to maintain the property.Offer companies a 100% tax break on the first year of new salaries for any net additional positions added in the US over the previous year.

    • 1 vote
    #6.4 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:09 PM EST
    paxildog

    Some of those aren't too bad of an idea.

    No amnesty for anyone though unless they can provide 100% payback of all public paid for items like schools, health, roads usage, etc...from day one of arriving and provide theproof, otherwise they go back and start again., no payroll citizenship.

    All foreclosed homes must be maintained but unoccupied by any living being, no free housing.

    No free college education but you may have a hard time with that draft idea.

    I love the tax break for new additional jobs, that's a great one.

    Flat tax with no steps for anyone or any entity, this would include churches and charities that pay any employees for anything including maintenance.

    • 1 vote
    #6.5 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:36 PM EST
    Sebbydad

    Who gets free college?

    • 1 vote
    #6.6 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:52 PM EST
    StoneyT

    sebbydad,

    What about subsidies for wind and solar? What makes them Ok?

    • 2 votes
    #6.7 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:34 PM EST
    paxildog

    Shouldn't have them. Shouldn't have subsides for cars either.

    • 1 vote
    #6.8 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:53 PM EST
    StoneyT

    I agree.

    There should be no subsidies. Let them compete amongst themselves. If they cant make it someone else will takeover that can.

    • 2 votes
    #6.9 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:13 PM EST
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