New survey: 65% of doctors say healthcare quality will decline under ObamaCare - National Libertarian | Examiner.com

Cool, You don't turst your Doctor.............he's a Haliburton Employee ? ?

Now that particular dotted line from Healthcare to Oil Companies, sounds like a "Democrat talking point" that only works on other Demorats. LOL.

Obamacare didn't work in Europe, and America still has the best Care in the World.

If you liked the Post Office trying to survive in today's electronic Mail world, you'll love your Government run "Heart bypass" operation.....or is it an "Aterial bypass"? ? Ooops, sorry, the patient died, we bypassed the wrong mailbox organ...but you can't sue the Government.

I'm failing to see how more insurance covered patients will lead to the decline of services provided.

You can find people that will back ANYTHING up for the right amount and I'm pretty sure this is one of those cases. Hell they have "scientist" that say Global Warming isn't happening even though 98% of the scientific data shows otherwise.

JayTee-

How did Obamacare NOTwork in Europe? Do you ever hear of people having to choose the cheaper treatment in Europe like they do here? Do you hear of people losing their homes because they can't afford to own a house and pay for treatment of their children? Yeah no you don't. But of course it's easy for you to sit here and demonize socialized medicine in your little "America is #1" bubble you live in. By the way we're 1st in associated cost of healthcare and 18th in actual care received. Best in the world my a$$!

I'm failing to see how more insurance covered patients will lead to the decline of services provided.

Here you go.

1. It Will Force Healthcare Rationing: When I was a kid, becoming a doctor was the top career choice in the private sector. Now, the time and money involved in becoming a physician has changed that. Most medical school graduates enter private practice with hundreds of thousands in student loans.

Worse, once the open their practice, they're flooded with Medicaid and Medicare patients along with their government payments that don't even cover the rent and lights!

Before their was Obamacare, there was Romneycare in Massachusetts. In 2008, The New York Times did a powerful piece called "In Massachusetts, Universal Coverage Strains Care" which chronicled Universal Health Care was destroying access to quality healthcare in Massachusetts

Here are a few excerpts:

“In rural Massachusetts, where reimbursement rates are relatively low, some physicians are earning as little as $70,000 after 20 years of practice.

Dr. Atkinson, 45, said she paid herself a salary of $110,000 last year. Her insurance reimbursements often do not cover her costs, she said.

“I calculated that every time I have a Medicare patient, it’s like handing them a $20 bill when they leave,” she said. “I never went into medicine to get rich, but I never expected to feel as disrespected as I feel. Where is the incentive for a practice like ours?”

Remember, that was before Obamacare which will add at least 30 million patients with government reimbursements that do not cover the cost of care.

2. It Will Kill 10 Million Jobs a Year: Think about the cost of free healthcare for 30 million more people. Who's going to pay for this? Unfortunately, the media hasn't spent much time talking about "picking up the tab" for Obamacare.

The truth is that Obamacare includes over $2 trillion in new taxes, most of which fall on the backs of small businesses, who prior to Obama's Great Recession have typically created 70% of the new jobs in America.

http://whostolemycareer.com/posts/93/3251-whats-so-bad-about-obamacare.html

http://americasmedicalsociety.com/why-doctors-fear-obamacare-is-bad-for-your-health/

Hell they have "scientist" that say Global Warming isn't happening even though 98% of the scientific data shows otherwise

I think you need to check your facts on that one.

StoneyT

I don't think you fixed the "I'm failing to see" problem of #2.2. Some people just can't see Greece from the shadows of the Whitehouse. I hear the Greek Debt problem has resulted in reduced health care for it's citizens.

What does one do when the Government Doctor goes bankrupt ? There isn't a 2nd Government and the 1st Government didn't allow 2nd opinions.....that's a tough one to get around.

That's not what caused Greece's financial meltdown, this did:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/02/10/greek.debt.qanda/index.html

And if it was as you say healthcare that did it how come Germany is doing well? Germany has universal healthcare.

Germany is NOT the leader of the "Best Doctors" on the planet, the USA is. But Obamacare will fix that, if the Supreme Court doesn't kill it off.

Germany is NOT the leader of the "Best Doctors" on the planet, the USA is. But Obamacare will fix that, if the Supreme Court doesn't kill it off.

Wonder why? Let me ask you a question. If you were a doctor that could practice anywhere in the world and make a good living at it, where would you practice? In a country with a for-profit health care system or a health care system that is socialized? Sure there are many doctors that practice medicine because they like helping people but there are probably twice as many that enjoy the paycheck most. Also once Obamacare comes about how will that determine if a doctor will still practice in the US? Obamacare has more to do with insurance for health care and not the actual practice. It's not as if doctors are going to stop helping people because they all of a sudden have insurance instead of the old way of help them and then dump it on our backs. And anyway what's the point of having the best doctors? Nobody can afford them. Hence why Obamacare is being brought about. Also JayTee judging by your "my country was the best until Obama came" type comment I willing to bet you have zero knowledge of what the Affordable Healthcare Act brings with it...other than the trash numbers that the right feed you.

You haven't read the Healthcare Bill, have you ?

All Hospital construction by "Doctors" was stopped by Obamacare. Doctors can no longer band together and form a Hospital LLC Corp and BUILD a new hospital.

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Obamacare needed a "Medicare Doctor" fix......what was that ? And when did the FIX pass Congress ?

Doesn't appear you have read it but you sure have read plenty of the "conservative" views on it.

Doesn't appear you are willing to acknowledge that the last ruling on the Health Care law has found it unconstitutional and the Federal Government has appealed to the Supreme Court.

RULES can be "Created" by the Secretary of Health and Human services as she sees fit. It's a dictatorship on Health.

If you crash your motorcycle and get a head injury, the Brain Surgeon needs permission from a committee to authorize him to spend federal Healthcare money to give you emergency care.....Good luck lying in Intensive Care waiting for the committee to meet.

Just like you haven't accepted that there have been numerous rulings on the mandate and last time I checked there are rulings for AND against, reason it's going to the SCOTUS. Also there will never be a circumstance where the will make someone needing immediate care to wait so they can call a commitee meeting. You probably thought the death panels were real too huh?

http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/obamacares-death-panel/

The Independent Payment Advisory Board, aka the Death Panel, is deeply entrenched in the application of ObamaCare. Its function will be to determine whether or not your medical condition warrants treatment and the privilege of government funding. Indeed, the rationing aspect of ObamaCare has already reared its ugly head.

Damn good post. If illegal aliens are on the public dole, and do not pay into the system, then who pays for the illegal aliens? The trouble with socialism is what happens when the money runs out.

The same thing happens then as it happens now. The "illegal" goes to the emergency room, get's the care they need, then they go home, the hospital sends the bill, they don't pay. Illegals are the least of our worries, when are people going to wake up and see that we are one of the last industrialized countries that doesn't provide healthcare for our own citizens. People are so convinced by ad agencies into believing that our healthcare is second to none and the way we do it now is second to none. If our system is so good and socialized medicine is so bad how is it the rest of the world isn't clamoring to jump aboard the pay to play healthcare system?